first century perverts?

Helen Willis hhiwater@BRIGHT.NET
Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:13:03 -0700 (00907287183, 3613D43F.7B7C@bright.net)


Joseph Crea posted some quotes from  the testimony of Marcus Cornelius Fronto 
(100 - 166? CE) and the later writings of an early Christian writer, 
Epiphanius. The quotes from Epiphanius I had seen quoted before by John M. 
Allegro about the early Gnostics in "The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian 
Myth". I'm especially thinking of the very odd practice of drinking semen or 
menstrual blood as somehow connected with communing with God. Besides being 
gross, this would seem to be an unique practice. I have never heard of 
another religious group anywhere in the world doing such a thing. It is not 
at all compatible with Jewish religious thought. I asked a liberal NT scholar 
years ago in Miami about Allegro's claims and he told me there was no basis 
for the claims in this book. 

After that I had presumed that Epiphanius' witness simply represented some 
kind of later cult of perverts justifying their perversion with the Christian 
myth. Allegro doesn't quote Fronto. The idea that there were first century 
perverts claiming to be Christians would seem to be incompatible with Paul, 
but as I have claimed in the past so would first century worship of Mary, but 
I think the first few chapters of Luke strongly suggest that Mary worship was 
in fact going on among some groups of "Christians" very early in the history 
of "the church". Allegro more or less claims that the agape (love feast) was 
an orgy wrapped around these sexual fluid drinking practice among at least 
some early Christian groups. It seems to me that I have read that "sexual 
immorality" was the reason the early church dropped the agape ceremony. I 
think Robert Graves claims someplace that at least some of the early 
Christians were practicing perverted sexual rituals. Do any serious modern 
scholars other that Allegro make claims for sexual perversions as acts of 
worship among early Christian? 

It seems to me that when we try to go back before the writing of Mark, the 
earliest gospel, around 70 AD, Christianity seem to be a very diverse set of 
cults with Paul representing only one set of believers. 
Helen
hhiwater@bright.net