Blood, Water and Magicians (rain and the nile)

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> >JAN

> >I've tried to follow this long-winded debate, and I cannot remember to

> >have seen the CCBE bring up the topic of *rain* and the flow of water. 

<snip> 


> TILL

> There are two problems in your solution.  First, you are doing the same

> thing that Bell and the CCBE did, i.e., proposing solutions based on

> what the text does NOT say.  Their argument is that since the text does 

> not say that the magicians did not dig for water, find some, and change it 

> into blood, they can therefore assume that this is what happened.  <snip>


JAN
Of course. As the text stands, it's so self-contradictory it's hard to 
imagine that none of the writer's contemporaries pointed the flaw out to 
him.

But you'll never get inerrantists to accept your rules of the game. They 
know they would loose miserably (and they do). So the inerrantist position 
has to be: a text is proven self-contradictory if and only if it could be 
strictly proven that no chain of events really happened that allowed the 
text's (alleged) self-contradictions to be resolved. And since they can 
always come dragging in an omnipotent God as the last resort, they can 
safely assume that the Bible is never proved errant (in their view).

Of course, this makes the inerrancy position meaningless. If you can propose 
any wild excusogetic (sic) solutions to solve contradictions, can't we just 
propose the same set of solutions for any other text? Cannot any story 
really mean anything?

TILL

> There would be no end of solutions if an inerrantist would be allowed to 

> solve the problem by proposing solutions that the Bible did not say did 

> not happen.


JAN
Exactly.

TILL

> The second flaw in your solution is that Exodus 7:25 indicates that the

> plague of blood lasted for seven days, so water flowing in from the

> south evidently didn't flow in very fast.


JAN
Evidently not. Anyone have any idea how fast the Nile flows on average?


- Jan

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