David Lim's post (ACC)

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---Matthew Bell <mbkbell@aapi.co.uk> wrote:

[snip "did not"/"did too, liar!"]


> > BRYCE

> >      You're not welcome.  I find it quite surprising that you're

> > attempting to claim the moral high ground.  You formed CCBE for the

> > sole purpose of providing a forum for people to attack Farrel Till

and

> > Dennis McKinsey without revealing the authorship of the attacks. 

> 

> M.BELL

> For someone who has not only visited my web  page more than once but

also has

> access to the archives you are extremely ignorant regarding the

purpose of the

> CCBE list. It is not about personalities, but about issues of

Biblical errancy.

> Sure people may vent off at the poster of an alleged contradiction

but such

> would only be tolerated to the level that it exists in most, if not

all email

> lists. 


ACC
     Frankly, you misunderstand Bryce's use of the word "attack." 
Bryce was not limiting his usage to those which are ad hominem in
nature, but was extending the meaning to include any attempt to
discredit a position.  In this sense, CCBE HAS been attacking both
Farrel Till and Dennis McKinsey, and has been doing so without
allowing them to respond directly to the authors of the attacks, but
to a discorporeal entity.  We believe this tactic has the sole effect
of putting CCBE opponents in the spotlight, while shielding CCBE
members from the fallout if their attacks fail.  The anonymity of the
authors does nothing to get past "personalities," and is simply a
transparent ploy.

     Also, ACC has reviewed your web page again, and wishes to inform
Matt that it is possible to create more than one html page, and create
what are known as "hyperlinks" between them.  This makes it possible
to organize information in an elegant yet simple way, instead of
putting the topics haphazardly on a single page.

MATT
We already have a response to D.McKinsey on the web page, please point

> out where it attacks him? When we have concluded the Blood/Water

thread it also

> will be appearing on the web page, not as an attack against F.Till,

but as a

> response to an alleged matter of errancy in the Bible. The above

demonstrates

> only how little you understand re: the nature of the list and its

purpose.

ACC
     Again, under the definition of "attack" that Bryce used, your
exchange was an example of an attack.  Since none of the CCBE members
involved in the exchange appear to have given Dennis McKinsey their
names or even their pseudonyms, the attacks were anonymous.  

     We believe that we do understand the purpose of the list.


> BRYCE

> > You also wanted to not be held personally responsible for any

> > logical/historical/linguistic errors in your posts.  Now that the

list

> > has been "infiltrated,"  it cannot serve its intended purpose.  And

> > you question MY honesty?

> 

> M.BELL

> I will be participating individually on the errancy list whenever I

feel

> inclined to do so. Of course nowadays it is becoming increasingly

difficult to

> find an on-topic thread to respond to but thats another matter. If

you think

> the list cannot serve its purpose you are fooling yourself. The list

continues

> despite your presence, it will continue to do so and yes I not only

question

> your honesty I categorically dispute you have any. 


ACC
     It is our firm conviction that the entire purpose of CCBE is to
hide the authorship of attempts to discredit its opponents.  As long
as a single errantist is on the list, the authors cannot be assured
anonymity, thus undermining the true intent of the list.

     We, the member(s) of ACC, do hereby declare that Bryce Anderson
is generally honest in his dealings with his fellow man, though he has
a tendency to goof off, and on several occasions has lied about
whether he drank milk directly from the jug.  It is our hope that Matt
will cease and desist in his attempts to besmirch his good name.


> BRYCE

> >      I've already suggested to Farrel that we simply treat "CCBE"

as a

> > pseudonym for "Matt Bell," and hold you entirely responsible for

> > whatever drivel comes out of the list.  I still think that doing

this

> > would end the entire CCBE farce.

> 

> M.BELL

> It does not matter a whit to me how the list is treated. The posts

will

> continue being sent to errancy addressed appropriately. As for

drivel coming

> out of the list well, that remains to be seen. I intend for CCBE to

grow,

> expand and fulfil its purpose effectively, regardless of you.

Farrell Till's or

> any other individual attempts to disrupt it, and hence protect the

errancy

> subject from serious scrutiny. 


ACC
     After several long discussions with Bryce, we've managed to
convince him that he did not go far enough in his advice to Till.  The
ACC now takes the position that all CCBE posts should be sent to the
trash unread, until such a time as CCBE decides to end the games and
name the authors of their arguments.

     Perhaps, yes, CCBE may someday grow into a semi-respectable
entity in the world of apologetics.  But not until its members admit
that skulking in the shadows is not a valid method of argumentation.

     It has been brought to my attention that it is only possible for
ACC to refer to itself in the plural if there are two members in the
group.  We regret this error, and have declared Bryce Anderson's cat
(Midnight) the second member of the ACC forum.  Midnight brings a
wealth of experience to the table, having studied six different
languages, including Hebrew, Syrian, Greek, Aramaic, Swahili, and an
obscure Oriental dialect known only as "Greepian."  She graduated
summa cum laude from Yale's archaeology department (if they have such
a department.  If not, she graduated from Texas A&M), and spent
several years teaching Middle Eastern studies at BYU, Hawaii.  Welcome
aboard, Midnight!  And quit climbing on the screen!  Bad kitty!

     We must also announce that one of our founding members, Bryce
Anderson, is leaving on a three week sabbatical, where he will most
likely be shot and killed on at least four occasions.  ACC will remain
inactive during his leave.
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