Adnan
Matthew Bell by way of Farrell Till jftill@midwest.net
Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:01:14 -0700 (00908164874, 2.2.32.19981011230114.008b22ec@midwest.net)
M.BELL
Just to be sure you received the full post I sent to CCBE re: the liar Adnan.
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M.BELL
I am a sad man this morning. One of the leaks of information to F.Till comes
out of his hole to reveal his identity. That individual is Adnan, email
address, karpov@softhome.net or balboa19@idt.net. Who is Adnan? He is the list
moderator of Errancyn newsgroup and the mirror email list, created at
makelist.com. Who was put as moderator of this list? Why Farrell Till. Adnan
also has a web page titled. Christian-Muslim debate, located at
http://idt.net/~balboa19/
So there can be no mistake that Adnan has blatantly lied let me provide the
following information. Adnan is subscribed to CCBE under the email address
karpov@softhome.net. As such he was sent
1. A basic two-point question sent to all persons who apply for subscription.
Here is his response to this:
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At 04:04 AM 9/20/98 +0100, you wrote:
Dear sir,
Before your subscription can be processed could you please affirm:
a) that you are a Christian and
Yes
b) whether you are an inerrantist or an errantist.
Inerrantist
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2. the recent 'Subscription Validation' form. He responded to this and in light
of such I placed it in the category of 'Responded, but validation
unsatisfactory', with the view of seeking further information and checking his
references when I had dealt with the priority category, 'No Response'
group.Here is his response to my questions, nothing has been edited:
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'>1. Please provide your name.
>
> Anatoly Karpov
>
>
> >2. Are you a Christian?"
>
> Yes
>
> >3. Are you an errantist or an inerrantist?"
>
> inerrant
>
> >4. Do you have a webpage that is Christian orientated?"
>
> NO
>
> >5. Can you provide any referee's to vouch for your professed
>
> Mike_DCM@hotmail.com
>
> >Christianity? If so please do? (Activity on other email lists, newsgroups,
> >chat rooms
>
> http://www.debate.org.uk/weboard/debate/index.html
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> Note on both occassions he claims to be a Christian inerrantist!!!
>
> Now what does his web page say:
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>
> 'Hello and welcome to my Website,
>
> I am an agnostic, and I am interested in collecting responses to anti-Islam
> material produced by Christians. To do this I will need help from
knowledgeable
> people. I will give links to sites carrying material against (or related to)
> Islam. Have a look at them. If you would like to respond, email me your
> response balboa19@idt.net and I will add it here.
>
> Thanks!
> =========================
> Anyone spot a problem here? In one of the posts sends to the CCBE he pleads
> that he is not responsible for the leaked posts. Being the honest, truthful
> person he is we are of course expected to believe this on his word!! Hardly.
> Why would we not be justified in forming the conclusion that him and F.Till
> have been in collusion from the time he joined this list?
>
> This is the depths that errantists will stoop to get ahead of the game. Until
> such time as evidence is presented from either Adnan or Farrell Till that
they
> have not been colluding together, then it will be taken that the evidence
> suggests otherwise and such posted shortly on my web page and other
interested
> forums. Since Adnan has not been kicked from the list as yet, he can inform
> Farrell Till that they have two days to provide evidence demonstrating lack
of
> collusion. If no such evidence is forthcoming it will be put on the page and
> elsewhere. Oh how the mighy have fallen.
>
> Thanks
> M.Bell
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The following was also sent:
'> M.BELL
> Please note the above as further evidence of collusion between Adnan and
> F.Till.
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>
> Farrell Till has recently been cc'ing messages to certain individuals on the
> list (and indeed one who is not, having unsubscribed last week). Here is his
cc
> line:
>
> 'Cc: David Lim <dlim@interlog.com>; Nancy Jensen
<intercessor@rocketmail.com>;
> pmans <pmans@aapi.co.uk>; David Keeney <keeneys@vvm.com>;
> blufunk195@tidalwave.net;DENNIS-B@DiMarkInc.com
>
> Adnan sent a post into the errancy list this morning. He cc'ed it to some
> members of our list: Guess what his cc line looks like:
>
> 'Cc: David Lim <dlim@interlog.com>; Nancy Jensen
<intercessor@rocketmail.com>;
> pmans <pmans@aapi.co.uk>; David Keeney <keeneys@vvm.com>;
> blufunk195@tidalwave.net; DENNIS-B@DiMarkInc.com
>
> Coincidence or collusion? Not hard to guess is it.
>
> Thanks
> M.Bell
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A point of correction from Adnan on your role as moderator will be changed on
the web page to, 'who is a major contributor to this list?'
I see from your recent post on errancy you find such blatant lying humorous.
Your lack of morality is firmly established.
Thanks
M.Bell