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From: Marc SanGiovanni <mlsangiovanni@vfcc.edu>
To: errancy@infidels.org
Subject: Re: Trinity
Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 11:37 AM

for some reason there seems to be a certain lack of understanding and/or
respect of the xtian God.... although you may not believe their God, you
must first understand their presupposition.  God is eternal (not bound by
our measurements such as time, esp.  since she created such) (psalm xc.2.),
immutable (imperishable) (psalm cii. 26, 27), she is also omnipresent
(jeremiah xxiii. 24.), and all knowing (psalm cxlvii. 5.).  since God is an
infinite, infallible, and well beyond our finite 3 and 4 dimensional
world -- we must, therefore, through their presuppositions acknowledge the
complexity and ability of God being much more then our small and limited
minds can comprehend.  so, why can't it be one being with three persons?

just a little something to think about, remember your presupposition and
the
objectivity of the lense in which you are looking through.

BRIDEAN
That might seem reasonable until you take that to it's logical conclusion.
If it is really true that God is so beyond our understanding that 3=1 makes
sense in the God realm then you have no basis for saying God DIDN'T
do X or ISN'T X.  

For example, if God is beyond our understanding then he might very well
be the Hindu Brahman.  It seems that the notion of Brahman contradicts
that of Christ but this is only because we have a limited understanding of
God.  You can apply the same logic to any other religion which is
antithetical
to Christianity (take your pick).  All you have to do is invoke the "God is
mysterious" or "God's ways are above our understanding" to explain ANY
contradictions that arise if you assume that all religions are true.

In other words, with this type of logic, the falsehood of ANY religion can
not
be proven.

So let me say this.  Perhaps the atheists are right, God doesn't exist.  It
may
seem to contradict Christianity but this is only because we are thinking in
a 3 or 4 dimensional realm.  We even see a reflection of this truth in the
every day world.  For example, dreams exist in the sense that they have
an effect on us while we are dreaming.  But they don't exist in the sense
that
if you dream that you are driving a car, that you are REALLY driving a car.
So you can make an argument either for or against the existence of the car
in your dream depending on what kind of existence you are talking about.
Since we see a reflection of this in our limited 3 dimensional world, then
if
we are talking about something infinitely beyond our experience, then why
can't it be true that God both exists and doesn't exist?  After all, didn't
you
yourself admit that the God realm is mysterious?

It ends up that such a principle has no power to verify anything because it
is not falsifiable.

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