Irreversiblity of time...?
Farrell Till errancy@infidels.org
Sun, 30 May 1999 23:58:26 -0700 (00928151906, 2.2.32.19990531065826.008df04c@midwest.net)
At 09:19 PM 5/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Jason:
>
>I'm not responding to go into a deep debate, because i don't know much
>about this subject, but maybe this article here has something of use to say...
>
>I found the article at http://www.yfiles.com/y3nf.html
<part answer by repostings from Adnan's group snipped>
>The Third Time Reversal?
>
>There is a third prophecy by Daniel that was given at approximately the
>same time as the other two prophecies. He even links it within one verse of
>the other two prophecies.
>
>Daniel 9:24: "Seventy weeks are determined for your people (Israel) and for
>your holy city (Jerusalem), to finish the transgression, and to make an end
>of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting
>righteousness, to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most
>Holy." NKJV
>
>The Hebrew word translated as "weeks" literally means years.
>
>Just one verse later in Daniel we read about the third prophecy:
>
>Daniel 9:25: "Know therefore and understand , That from the going forth of
>the command To restore and build Jerusalem Until Messiah the Prince There
>shall be seven weeks and sixty two weeks; The street shall be built again
>and the wall, Even in troublesome times." NKJV
>
>Another mathematical calculation:
>
>Daniel 9:25 states that from the time of the command to rebuild Jerusalem
>until Messiah the Prince there will be 483 years. If a "shabuim" is a week
>(seven) of years, it therefore follows that 69 sevens is 483 years (69 x
>7=483 years). 483 years x 360 day prophetic year = 173,880 days
>
>When was the command issued to restore and build Jerusalem: There are 4
>different decrees issued in the Bible within almost 100 years of each
>other. Which one do we use? The logical choice is the decree of Artaxerxes
>to Nehemiah (Nehemiah 2:1-8). Why use this one? Because it is the only
>decree that mentions rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem. The commandment to
>restore and build Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes Longimanus on March 14,
>445 BC.
>See: #Y23.
>
>If we jump ahead 173,880 days we arrive at April 6, 32 AD. This is the day
>that Jesus presented himself as the Messiah. This historical date of April
>6, 32 AD can also be verified;
>See; #Y87.
TILL
Jason, a fellow named R. N. Mendez posted this same argument about Daniel
9:25 on alt.bible.errancy too, and I posted replies to it that soon silenced
Mendez. He left the group and hasn't been heard from since. If you want to
insist that Daniel 9:25 is an example of amazing prophecy fulfillment, I'll
be glad to call your hand on it too. All that I will have to do is repost
the materials that I sent in response to Mendez.
When I read such stuff as this, I wonder if you biblicists ever take the
time to critically evaluate prophecy-fulfillment claims before you fly them
out to be shot down.
Farrell Till
Skepticism, Inc.
jftill@midwest.net