God and babies/children

Reverend G. R. Gaudreau errancy@infidels.org
Mon, 31 May 1999 12:06:16 -0400 (00928184776, 008701beab7f$8406ff80$6d906395@grgaud)


Matthew Bell (previous)
The only part of my above statement which begs the question is that
which follows the words, 'As a further point.....' Why don't you deal
with that which proceeds such, or is it to be understood that in
stating that I am ALSO begging the question that you are concurring
that D.Flandry was indeed begging the question?

G.R.Gaud
No, I should have simply stated that you were begging the question,
and the question you were begging was: "how do you know that 'babie
[sic] /children' are hell-deserving?"

Matthew Bell
So what you are now saying is that when D.Flandry stated:

RevGaud
No, what I am stating is what I wrote above: YOU were begging the
question "how do you know that babies/children are hell-deserving?"
and you still haven't answered that question. How do you know this?
Show us chapter and verse instead of trying to turn the tables on me,
as is your wont when you're cornered. The rest of what you wrote is
superfluous and so won't get a reply.

RevGaud
1) I knew about the Xian doctrine of original sin probably before you
were born. 2) I knew that it didn't involve "specific committed sin"
on the part of 'babies/children'. The Bible says that God cannot abide
with sin and children have a sinful nature. Further, without
purification of this sinful nature, one cannot enter the kingdom of
heaven. If one cannot enter the KoH, then there's only one other place
to go, hell, unless there's a teaching in the Bible, of which I'm not
aware, which states that children dying before they can personally
sin, are purified of their sinful nature. Now unless you can show me
this doctrine, logically I have to assume they end up in hell.

Matthew Bell
How do you know that the purification of their sinful nature is not
covered
by the atonement of Christ?

Revgaud
Up to your old tricks again, I see. Trying to turn the tables one by
redirecting the question at me. Sorry, won't work. You haven't replied
to what I wrote above. Are you going to do that, or will you just keep
trying to evade the problem?


Reverend G. R. Gaudreau
grgaud@bigfoot.com
http://campus.fortunecity.com/defiant/666/