A comment
Lee Bowen errancy@infidels.org
Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:49:17 GMT (00929062157, 19990610194917.51462.qmail@hotmail.com)
Jason, on Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:27:40 -0500, wrote:
>
>At 01:01 PM 6/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >At 12:37 AM 6/10/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Till,
> >>I think that you are not angry with Jesus, but your specific faith. I
>spent
> >12 years living out of doors, being publicly abused and humiliated by
>those
> >who thought that they knew what they were doing. If it weren't for my
>love
> >of God, I would either be dead, or in prison.
> >>I do hope that you shall come to terms with the anger that is obviously
>in you.
> >>MDH
> >
> >TILL
> >I don't conduct private correspondence, so I am posting this on an
>internet
> >list.
> >
> >Your experience proves nothing. There are people whose lives have been
> >dramatically changed by adopting belief in Islam, Hinduism,
>Zoroastrianism,
> >Scientology, New Age-ism, etc., etc., etc.
>
>Jason:
>
>What do you mean "it proves nothing"? If God, that is Jesus Christ, is a
>personal God and He acts on a personal level, as well as public then yes it
>does. It might not prove it to *you* specifically because it's not your
>experience, but it does prove that God (if existing...) does work in
>individual lives.
>
LEE
Jason, first you must prove that his 'personal experience' was not a
hallucination and/or self-induced wish to be accepted by the group. This is
similar to the Stockholm syndrome.
Lee
>Till
>
> >You suggest that you were
> >homeless for 12 years, so I would suspect that your conversion resulted
>from
> >experiences that you had at homeless shelters maintained by Christian
> >organizations. Your conversion very likely resulted from an emotional
> >feeling of gratitude, but had you had experiences with shelters
>maintained
> >by Islamic organizations, you would now be praising Allah for saving your
> >life and keeping you out of prison.
>
>Jason:
>
>How do you connect the two? Are you saying that shelter organizations that
>are run by Muslims are run exactly like those Christian organizations? What
>makes you think that the experiences at those organizations would be
>identical to the ones in the Christian organizations?
LEE
The level of care and the level of indoctrination would be approximately the
same.
Lee
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