A comment
errancy@infidels.org errancy@infidels.org
Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:32:55 -0500 (EST) (00929079175, Pine.HPP.3.96.990610192407.12804A-100000@garnet.iupui.edu)
> At 07:29 PM 6/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >Jason:
> >Redone: What do you mean "it proves nothing"? God, that is Jesus Christ, is a
> >personal God and He acts on a personal level, as well as public. It might
> >not prove it to *you* specifically because it's not your
> >experience, but it does prove that God does work in
> >individual lives.
> >
> >Am i contradicting myelf now?
> >
> >RevGaud
> >What I meant was that your supposition was based on the speculation
> >"if existing...", that is, you said "if God exists it proves he works
> >in individual lives." You can't have it as proof that God works in
> >people's lives while at the same time saying "if he exists."
> >
> >You're begging the questions: What "proof" do you have that "God is a
> >persoanl God?" And what proof do you have that he works in individual
> >lives? Personal experience is not proof that God exists and it is not
> >proof that God is a "personal God". It isn't proof of anything but a
> >personal experience. It's all very subjective.
>
>
> Jason:
>
> Is murder subjective? Is rape subjective? Those are personal experiences to.
> Using the logic you've used, i could say that love doesn't exist. I could
> say that depression doesn't exist. I could say that fear doesn't exist.
> Those are personal experiences to.
>
> Do you believe in moral absolutes? If you don't and think that it's
> relative, then you deny an absolute's defense. If you say that moral
> absolutes do not exist, it's a contradiction because that in itself is an
> absolute. Morality is personal experience to. Does that mean it's limited
> to one person?
>
>
KRIS
Back to this again, eh? Jason (FL), all of this is subjective processing.
Saying that does not confirm that absolutes do not exist, i don't think we
can know if they do. What it says is that experience is only pertinent to
the entity that consumes it. You COULD say that, from your experience,
love doesn't exist. Conversly, i could say that, from my experience, it
does. Neither of our testimonies do anything to provide proof on whether
it does or not.